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    Can u be payed in lawful money Tax Refund private to public conversion needed is just a demand so who has the authority or that fiduciary duty to accommodate such a demand . The employers remittance is on the employees behalf demanding the theft back is a public affair HENDRICKSON .other than in truly unusual cases,lawful money returns any agency with which one deals in regard to the "income" tax already has a copy of any "information return" to which a filer is responding. Since such "information returns" are the key mechanism by which presumptions of liability arise in the first place, those producing them are typically instructed by statute to send copies to each "income" taxing entity within whose territorial jurisdiction they are located. Demanding lawful money keeps who outta tax terrorism .Fascinating the extension of the federal income tax authority throughout the entire USA. This is because the federal income tax structure hinges directly on the federal perjury statutes. Under Penalty of perjury

    If a payment is reported on an "information return" such as a W-2, a 1099, , it alleges every necessary prerequisite of qualification for that payment to be a gain from a taxable activity. Is demanding lawful money just honest income activity and inherently a right not a privilege that is excised? Thus, even if "US citizenship" or "DC residency" were actual requirements for the application of the tax, the allegation of that thing is incorporated in an information return report. Demanding it all back without the use of personal exemptions.

    Unless and until such a qualified payment allegation is rebutted it imposes the requirement on its target of all its implications and consequences. There is only ONE WAY to rebut such allegations, and that is by way of a signed, sworn 1040.

    The law is plainly stated:

    "Provided, that any party, in his or her own behalf, or as guardian or trustee, as aforesaid, shall be permitted to declare, under oath or affirmation, the form and manner of which shall be prescribed by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, that he or she was not possessed of an income of [the current personal exemption amount], liable to be assessed according to the provisions of this act..."

    Revenue Act of 1862, § 93 As with most Acts Standing and Re-venue isnt that what 1040 was designated to do Revenue the people into Persons of Excise applications and forms for begging Demanding has no forms to fill . Its necessary every form or application comes with instructions with lawful money its been framed not formed.
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    Next step is to decide which method or tool you'll use to file your lawful money tax return.

    1) pay someone to do it
    2) pay for software
    3) free file software
    4) free fillable forms
    5) paper & pencil

    I think you'll be hard pressed to find someone knowledgeable enough about Lawful Money to do #1. Number 2 is fine but check here first, you may be eligible for #3 free file software. Fourth option is free fillable forms from the IRS site that will do the basic math. As for number 5, I can remember Dad clearing the table after dinner and sharpening his pencil and getting the calculator. I can tell you it was not something he enjoyed but he took it seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    Next step is to decide which method or tool you'll use to file your lawful money tax return.

    I very much appreciate you taking the time to respond, but I'm admittedly not sure what this has to do with my actual question.

    I'm not unfamiliar with filing, and the rest of my forms are already in order. It's very specifically this 1099 that's keeping me from mailing it all off. I've been trying to get a sense of what you, lorne, do with your 1099s, especially considering you brought f1040 into the discussion.

    And if you're not willing to share or it is not applicable to you, that's a valid response, as well. You had started to talk about 1099s above, and I've been hoping you would expound on it.

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    Hey Sabo.....as far as the 1099.....how were you recompensed during the year by the "employer" in question? Did you receive paper checks which you then redeemed in LM? Did you make copies of those to be used as evidence?

    The evidence of your demand per 12 usc 411 is your rebuttal to the 1099

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    I understand all lawful money returns are to be sent to Gavilan Blvd this year.

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    HA. Where would that be ... Mnuchkin City ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag maniac View Post
    Hey Sabo.....as far as the 1099.....how were you recompensed during the year by the "employer" in question? Did you receive paper checks which you then redeemed in LM? Did you make copies of those to be used as evidence?

    The evidence of your demand per 12 usc 411 is your rebuttal to the 1099
    Thank you for asking salient questions and actually furthering the discussion.

    Yes, they were paper checks which were redeemed LM, which I have copies of. But I still need to acknowledge these somehow, and that's the part I'm hung up on. As I've said earlier, I don't think 1040 is the correct form for this, as it is not "income" within their limited structure (especially since their half-baked automated systems would want to peg me with FICA), but others are stating that they have never sent a corrected 1099.

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    There can be no doubt the Form 1040 is proper to report incorrect presumptions of federal income that was actually Lawful Money income. If for no other reason than ... it has worked so often for so many people, obtaining refunds, myself included. As example let's take this wage earner with the following income for TY2018:

    1) Form W-2 showing Box 1 Wages, tips, other compensation of $52,000 who received 26 paychecks of exactly $1578.01 each all redeemed in lawful money like this.
    2) Received a check and a Form 1099-S for $7,000 after selling property; also redeemed in LM.
    3) Received a cash gift from Dad of $1,000.
    4) Sold iPhone for $300 worth of bitcoin.

    How would you prepare the Form 1040?

    One week left until April 15th filing deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    If for no other reason than ... it has worked so often for so many people, obtaining refunds, myself included. As example let's take this wage earner with the following income for TY2018:
    Not sure if this changes anything, but I'm not looking for a refund. No money is stolen from me in the first place for any of my private activity. I just need to account for all third-party reports.

    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    3) Received a cash gift from Dad of $1,000.
    4) Sold iPhone for $300 worth of bitcoin.
    I would contend that neither of these belong on the 1040. Sure, they "want" you to, but they "want" you to do a lot of highly-invasive things that have no legal basis. Having said that, in the case of BTC, I would include it if I were to meet the 1099-K threshold ($20K in transactions), as third-parties will be reporting that.

    In any case:

    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    But you'd be on the hook for social security and medicare ("FICA") tax due on your "self-employment" earnings. The self employed pay FICA as "Self Employment Tax" (SET). SET is calculated on schedule (form) SE and is filed as part of an income return.

    But what if you're redeeming lawful money and don't agree that $7k was "self-employment" or "Nonemployee compensation"? Filing a return is your chance to rebut that allegation.
    This is the part I've been wanting to get more information on. Because I'm redeeming LM, and thus is not self-employment, I don't see how 1040 is the right form. Rebutting the 1099 directly seems more correct, but other than the anecdotal evidence that 1040 is the way to do it, haven't heard any opinions on why correcting the 1099 wouldn't be.

    To add to that, you've mentioned including a "supporting statement" for why a 1099 is not part of a 1040 calculation, but haven't seen any examples here or elsewhere online that define what such a "statement" would look like - are you referring to David's Supporting Schedule? It wasn't clear if FICA/SET/SS was calculated for the 1099(s) referenced.

    The goal is simply to prevent automated flags, while also not confirming any of the presumptions that the IRS has about the nature of my money and the ancillary hooks those presumptions have (that is, FICA/SS/SET).

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    I agree there is no need to include 3) cash gift from Dad on the 1040. Suitors know the dual capacity of paper cash and choose to treat it as lawful money; US notes in the form of FRNs. And no need to include 4) as bitcoin transactions occur outside the Federal Reserve districts (outside banking altogether). Neither is federal income and there is no info reporting alleging it is federal income.

    For the wage earner's Form 1040, I would prepare a statement like:

    STATEMENT Supporting Details for Line 21 Other Income - Schedule 1
    Form 1099-S $7000
    Redeemed lawful money (property Exhibit A) -7000
    Redeemed lawful money (paychecks Exhibit B) -41028
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    TOTAL Other income -41028

    The Form 1099 income is cancelled out by the $7k check redeemed in LM leaving all the redeemed LM paychecks totaling $41028. This will result in AGI of $10972 and no taxable income. Full refund of $4354 (FITW) is due the wage earner.

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